Comments on: 11/13 open thread

By: lilaruby

lilaruby — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:10:43 +0000

Observer, as a friend of mine says, “who died and made you God?” You demonstrate the height of arrogance and self-righteougness to ASSume you know who is a Christian.

By: GlitterGirl

GlitterGirl — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:18:01 +0000

For all you Oxford foloers (and anyone else in MS who receives Mphs PBS/WKNO-TV), a programming note of interest: (I don’t know if this will air on ETV or not)
Spotlight on Mississippi
Thursday, November 20, 8:00 p.m.
The 2008 Presidential Debate held at the University of Mississippi in Oxford, brought the national press corps, and renewed national attention, to the area. What did Mississippians learn from this attention? And what did the nation learn from Mississippi?

By: NMC

NMC — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:29:15 +0000

Well, Observer writes: “OK, Obama is NOT a Christian, no matter what he actually says.”

Ok, fine. Nothing Obama can say is evidence of what he believes, a standard I suspect Observer reserves for those he politically disagrees with.

So since Observer can never know what Obama believes, he should shut up about it.

By your own estimation you don’t know.

By my estimation, judging him in the way Observer judges him is quite literally unChristian.

I’ll accept Observer’s words at face value, and his words betray him.

By: Observer

Observer — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:20:22 +0000

OK, Obama is NOT a Christian, no matter what he actually says.

I’ve been busy as heck lately, and I haven’t had much time to glance at the headlines here and really haven’t had the time to post anything. But tonight I got put on hold on the phone, and actually had time to read the Obama interview. Lucky y’all!

Obama demonstrates only a shallow and superficial understanding of Christianity. What Obama articulates is a New Age-type belief system which is not compatible with Christianity. He gives lip-service to having a “personal relationship” with Jesus, but he does not demonstrate any belief in the divinity of Jesus, and he does not actually acknowledge the Holy Spirit. If he does not acknowledge the Triune nature of God, he is not a Christian.

Obama reveals (yet again) that he is a lying SOS. He states in the interview that he attends the 11:00 service at Jeremiah Wright’s church every week. There is no way he could have attended that church on a weekly basis and then been ignorant that Wright preaches black liberation theology (which is little more than race hate).

And what is the character of a man who, in his first press conference as President-elect of the United States, gratuitously insults 87-year-old Nancy Reagan? And for the record, it was Hilliary Clinton who engaged in seance-like channeling with Eleanor Roosevelt.

By: ThirdSouth

ThirdSouth — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:23:23 +0000

Indeed we can, AFOTL. I’m beginning to like agreeing with you.

By: a friend of the law

a friend of the law — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:21:51 +0000

“Bottom line: Religion and Government need to be separated, not blended.”

With that, we can agree.

By: ThirdSouth

ThirdSouth — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:15:34 +0000

And when John McCain looked at Barack Obama’s ideas and shuddered, calling them “Socialism,” I looked at them, too, and called them “The Sermon on the Mount.”

By: ThirdSouth

ThirdSouth — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:11:26 +0000

That’s the point, AFOTL: you see Jeremiah Wright as a politcal hack wrapping himself in religion and I see Sarah Palin the same way. Bottom line: Religion and Government need to be separated, not blended.

By: a friend of the law

a friend of the law — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:08:15 +0000

ThirdSouth, that out of body psycho rant of Father Michael Pfleger in the film clip that I saw would have certainly sent me running to the door. I thought the Father’s head was going to start spinning and his body levitate, all the while speaking in tongues.

And many of those sermons included in the “best of Jeremiah Wright” film clips I saw from the Trinity Church archives would have sent me running as well —- eg that the US govt. had intentionally introduced the aids virus into the black community; the GD America sermon; the post 9/11 chickens coming home to roost sermon; etc. None of those were “spiritual” convictions IMO, but instead were warped political views masquerading as “religion”.

To each his own.

By: ThirdSouth

ThirdSouth — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:45:35 +0000

Well, AFOTL, the “Obama camp” can’t address his spirituality any more than my law partners can address mine. I’ve never considered “running for the door” when any person was expressing a spiritual conviction — ever. I’m not a Muslim, but if I were a tourist in a mosque when the call for prayer occurred I can’t imagine “running for the door.” I don’t believe anyone was “less than forthcoming,” even though politics in America is, yes, political. The problem arises when Bible thumping wingnuts like Sarah Palin encourage the Klan and various skinhead groups to pretend their hate messages are grounded, somewhere, in the Bible.