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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/22/across-the-pond-they%e2%80%99re-pissed-off/#comment-40109</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now NL&#039;s got spam-stopper trouble again and sends this via email:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Apropos this is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1843162,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Time article&lt;/a&gt; I just read about risk.  An excerpt:

&#039;On the other hand, says Peter Morici, a professor of international business at the University of Maryland, finance concentrators -- that is, the students who are specially trained to grasp the models -- are so steeped in the particulars that they don&#039;t always see the forest for the trees. They get the math, but they don&#039;t pay attention to systemic issues within the broader economy; it&#039;s a by-product of degree programs that encourage students to take a narrow focus too early on in their studies. &quot;In medicine you become a doctor first, and then you become a specialist,&quot; Morici says. &quot;In finance, you just become a specialist.&quot; &#039;
and 
&#039;Morici says that Wall Street&#039;s compensation structure rewards risky business, and that&#039;s at the heart of the problem. &quot;Until the banks are compelled to reform their business practices, training and risk management and ethics at the business-school level isn&#039;t going to make a difference,&quot; he says. &quot;The business schools train what the banks want.&quot;  &#039;

I guess this fits the &#039;there are the ethically challenged  everywhere&#039; truism.  

Compelled is not what some want....&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now NL&#8217;s got spam-stopper trouble again and sends this via email:</p>
<blockquote><p>Apropos this is a <a href="http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1843162,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner" rel="nofollow">Time article</a> I just read about risk.  An excerpt:</p>
<p>&#8216;On the other hand, says Peter Morici, a professor of international business at the University of Maryland, finance concentrators &#8212; that is, the students who are specially trained to grasp the models &#8212; are so steeped in the particulars that they don&#8217;t always see the forest for the trees. They get the math, but they don&#8217;t pay attention to systemic issues within the broader economy; it&#8217;s a by-product of degree programs that encourage students to take a narrow focus too early on in their studies. &#8220;In medicine you become a doctor first, and then you become a specialist,&#8221; Morici says. &#8220;In finance, you just become a specialist.&#8221; &#8216;<br />
and<br />
&#8216;Morici says that Wall Street&#8217;s compensation structure rewards risky business, and that&#8217;s at the heart of the problem. &#8220;Until the banks are compelled to reform their business practices, training and risk management and ethics at the business-school level isn&#8217;t going to make a difference,&#8221; he says. &#8220;The business schools train what the banks want.&#8221;  &#8216;</p>
<p>I guess this fits the &#8216;there are the ethically challenged  everywhere&#8217; truism.  </p>
<p>Compelled is not what some want&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Coward</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hypothetical.  I am a big guy at Barclays and want to keep lottsa smart Lehman guys-assuming I would of  course want to keep these jeniuses.  Investment banks  dissolving all over and if   not,  banking  departments  decimating times  three at a minimum.  Just like the dotcom meltdown  but instead of software and  technical   job losses- money guy jobs  going to hell.  So  knowing a lot about markets I decide to pay  everyone  a lotta money to keep  all these jeniuses around  knowing  its an employers  market.  Make sense  to anyone  out there?   If  Lehman  does  not hold  onto these guys  they will all go  out and  find new work as  neurosurgeons and rheumatologists and  Dicki Scruggs replacement and  software engineers.  All it will take  is  3  to  10  years  of  full time  night skool  to qualify.  And to make less on average than they might make  now before  bonuses even though all those  jobs  pay well enough.  Or alternative  these guys  will go  out   and   rustle  up a  few  hundred million of their  own  to  bet  on that  subprime  mortgage  market- I hear its   a gonzo way  to  earn  some  cool cash  before  it   tanks.  

You know  after Merck  business types blew the chance to release the Vioxx  heart data on their  terms,  confine  use to those  at low  risk  and  make  only  couple  hundred million  yearly on it vs billion or so they paid  extra to those  buffoons  to keep  them around  during the crisis to have  &#039;seasoned&#039;  people to manage the business in crisis.   And at the board&#039;s  request.  (Not so much to bring up the medical controversy on Vioxx and  its  competitors but it is no more dangerous than some NSAIDS  yet out there including toradol,indomethacin and  likely ibuprofen)  I can provide  data.  

It is no wonder that we are in this mess... 
NL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypothetical.  I am a big guy at Barclays and want to keep lottsa smart Lehman guys-assuming I would of  course want to keep these jeniuses.  Investment banks  dissolving all over and if   not,  banking  departments  decimating times  three at a minimum.  Just like the dotcom meltdown  but instead of software and  technical   job losses- money guy jobs  going to hell.  So  knowing a lot about markets I decide to pay  everyone  a lotta money to keep  all these jeniuses around  knowing  its an employers  market.  Make sense  to anyone  out there?   If  Lehman  does  not hold  onto these guys  they will all go  out and  find new work as  neurosurgeons and rheumatologists and  Dicki Scruggs replacement and  software engineers.  All it will take  is  3  to  10  years  of  full time  night skool  to qualify.  And to make less on average than they might make  now before  bonuses even though all those  jobs  pay well enough.  Or alternative  these guys  will go  out   and   rustle  up a  few  hundred million of their  own  to  bet  on that  subprime  mortgage  market- I hear its   a gonzo way  to  earn  some  cool cash  before  it   tanks.  </p>
<p>You know  after Merck  business types blew the chance to release the Vioxx  heart data on their  terms,  confine  use to those  at low  risk  and  make  only  couple  hundred million  yearly on it vs billion or so they paid  extra to those  buffoons  to keep  them around  during the crisis to have  &#8217;seasoned&#8217;  people to manage the business in crisis.   And at the board&#8217;s  request.  (Not so much to bring up the medical controversy on Vioxx and  its  competitors but it is no more dangerous than some NSAIDS  yet out there including toradol,indomethacin and  likely ibuprofen)  I can provide  data.  </p>
<p>It is no wonder that we are in this mess&#8230;<br />
NL</p>
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