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		<title>By: Third South</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39553</link>
		<dc:creator>Third South</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question in this thread that no McCain/W defender has answered is this: would Social Security be better off if they had succeeded in privatizing it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question in this thread that no McCain/W defender has answered is this: would Social Security be better off if they had succeeded in privatizing it?</p>
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		<title>By: a friend of the law</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39536</link>
		<dc:creator>a friend of the law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few facts.

The Justice Dept. in 2003 found that Freddie had been cooking its books for years and levied very large fines. Not to be outdone, two separate federal reports (one in 04 and another in 06) found that Fannie had been cooking its books for years, misstating earnings by over 10 billion from 1998 through 2004 in order to allow certain bigwigs to rake in large bonuses. 

So, who at Fannie benefitted from the cooked books, fraud and mismanagement? How about Chairman Franklin Raines, Bill Clinton&#039;s OMB director, who received 52 million in bonuses. And Vice Chair Jamie Gorelick, Clinton&#039;s deputy attorney general, who raked in 15 million in bonuses. Chairman and Chief Executive James A. Johnson (1.9 million). 

Greenspan warned about the potential disaster in 2004. In response, ignoring the warning by Greenspan, HUD mandated that Fannie and Freddie had to start handing out mortgages to minority and moderate-income buyers. Creditworthiness was of little concern. 

And on top of all of this, while on the verge of disaster, these two companies were doling out large charitable contributions (millions) to groups such as Jesse Jackson&#039;s organizations and to urban/minority projects and grants (500 million). Over 200 million was spent on lobbying costs and campaign contributions.

What a mess our government created with these two dysfunctional companies that hold approx. half of the nation&#039;s mortgages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few facts.</p>
<p>The Justice Dept. in 2003 found that Freddie had been cooking its books for years and levied very large fines. Not to be outdone, two separate federal reports (one in 04 and another in 06) found that Fannie had been cooking its books for years, misstating earnings by over 10 billion from 1998 through 2004 in order to allow certain bigwigs to rake in large bonuses. </p>
<p>So, who at Fannie benefitted from the cooked books, fraud and mismanagement? How about Chairman Franklin Raines, Bill Clinton&#8217;s OMB director, who received 52 million in bonuses. And Vice Chair Jamie Gorelick, Clinton&#8217;s deputy attorney general, who raked in 15 million in bonuses. Chairman and Chief Executive James A. Johnson (1.9 million). </p>
<p>Greenspan warned about the potential disaster in 2004. In response, ignoring the warning by Greenspan, HUD mandated that Fannie and Freddie had to start handing out mortgages to minority and moderate-income buyers. Creditworthiness was of little concern. </p>
<p>And on top of all of this, while on the verge of disaster, these two companies were doling out large charitable contributions (millions) to groups such as Jesse Jackson&#8217;s organizations and to urban/minority projects and grants (500 million). Over 200 million was spent on lobbying costs and campaign contributions.</p>
<p>What a mess our government created with these two dysfunctional companies that hold approx. half of the nation&#8217;s mortgages.</p>
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		<title>By: GlitterGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39533</link>
		<dc:creator>GlitterGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from snarky comments, of which I own a share, I&#039;d be interested in hearing from those who may have some background information on this issue (the economy) and that of health care-two of my major concerns. Aside from partisan opinion (I have enough of my own in that respect), I&#039;m looking for facts. Obama vs McCain is the perspective I&#039;m looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from snarky comments, of which I own a share, I&#8217;d be interested in hearing from those who may have some background information on this issue (the economy) and that of health care-two of my major concerns. Aside from partisan opinion (I have enough of my own in that respect), I&#8217;m looking for facts. Obama vs McCain is the perspective I&#8217;m looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: GlitterGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39511</link>
		<dc:creator>GlitterGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time a conservative talks about dems being socialists-I&#039;d suggest a good look in the mirror. Economist &amp; NYT columnist Paul Krugman just termed the Fannie/Freddie bailout a &quot;socialization of risks&quot;.-Oh, and he also said he didn&#039;t see an alternate plan at this point but socialist nevertheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time a conservative talks about dems being socialists-I&#8217;d suggest a good look in the mirror. Economist &amp; NYT columnist Paul Krugman just termed the Fannie/Freddie bailout a &#8220;socialization of risks&#8221;.-Oh, and he also said he didn&#8217;t see an alternate plan at this point but socialist nevertheless.</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39507</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I just heard John McCain on &quot;The News Hour,&quot; and it means something more major than you might think that he doesn&#039;t even know how to pronounce &quot;Lehman&quot;: big ol&#039; audible &quot;Out to Lunch&quot; sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I just heard John McCain on &#8220;The News Hour,&#8221; and it means something more major than you might think that he doesn&#8217;t even know how to pronounce &#8220;Lehman&#8221;: big ol&#8217; audible &#8220;Out to Lunch&#8221; sign.</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39501</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know who saw deregulation through, right? Then-Sen. Phil Gramm, McCain&#039;s big econo-guru who a few weeks ago said this was all in our heads, whiners that we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know who saw deregulation through, right? Then-Sen. Phil Gramm, McCain&#8217;s big econo-guru who a few weeks ago said this was all in our heads, whiners that we are.</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39500</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ducky, I imagine that if Bush-McCain had had their way on privatizing SS, a whole lot more folks, feeling their way through the markets on their own, would be as broke as I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ducky, I imagine that if Bush-McCain had had their way on privatizing SS, a whole lot more folks, feeling their way through the markets on their own, would be as broke as I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Only When I Laugh</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39499</link>
		<dc:creator>Only When I Laugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These programs have certainly been around a long time, but the de-regulation was a Republican ideal, trumpeted at every election since I can remember.  Without de-regulation, the &quot;stated income&quot; loans would never have been allowed to occur and thrive.  It is no wonder we are in the mess we are in given the fact that under Bush&#039;s Ownership Society policies someone could simply walk into a bank or mortgage broker and state they made $300k in yearly income when in fact they made nothing close to that amount.  When the bubble burst, interest rates rose and the flipping was no longer profitable, ownership didn&#039;t seem like such a grand deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These programs have certainly been around a long time, but the de-regulation was a Republican ideal, trumpeted at every election since I can remember.  Without de-regulation, the &#8220;stated income&#8221; loans would never have been allowed to occur and thrive.  It is no wonder we are in the mess we are in given the fact that under Bush&#8217;s Ownership Society policies someone could simply walk into a bank or mortgage broker and state they made $300k in yearly income when in fact they made nothing close to that amount.  When the bubble burst, interest rates rose and the flipping was no longer profitable, ownership didn&#8217;t seem like such a grand deal.</p>
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		<title>By: GlitterGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39498</link>
		<dc:creator>GlitterGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question ducky-I&#039;d be interested in hearing the answer to that as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question ducky-I&#8217;d be interested in hearing the answer to that as well.</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/09/15/god-help-us-all/#comment-39497</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What gets reported, or not, too often depends upon whose ox is being gored.&quot;

Heh, don&#039;t it &lt;em&gt;just&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What gets reported, or not, too often depends upon whose ox is being gored.&#8221;</p>
<p>Heh, don&#8217;t it <em>just</em>.</p>
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