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Ok, I’ll go with what Atrios says

August 23rd, 2008 @ 10:30 am - by NMC · 16 Comments

Word for word:

Biden

CNN sez it’s so.

I’m not a big fan of him for a variety of reasons, but for a variety of other reasons I think he’s a pretty good VP choice. Not my fantasy VP choice or close to it, but nonetheless pretty good. Better than many of the other floated names.

And if CNN’s wrong I can make fun of them tomorrow

I tried to post this last night and something went awry.

Filed Under: Herald & Examiner

16 Responses so far ↓

  1. redneckerbubbams says:

    disappointing! We waited for this? What was BHO thinking? Biden will not benefit the ticket at all. Deleware was not a swing state. Same old crowd that you can’t trust–connections to Scruggs will attest to this.

    Hillary would have been a much better choice as well as Sam Nunn. Nunn would have solidified the South.

    Is this an example of BHO decison making? Disappointing!

  2. a friend of the law says:

    Point of order redneckerbubbams, I think the Obama camp prefers BO, as to BHO. And BO does sound more appropriate.

  3. duckweedpond says:

    Biden wouldn’t have been my choice, I’da preferred somebody from Virginia; spouse wanted Daschle. But still, he’s smart, and very very nimble. The copying thing doesn’t bother me so much. He’s reads and studies A LOT (a nice improvement over what we got), and I think one way folks like him retain all that information is by plugging it into their own experiences and understanding of those experiences. Sometimes that kind of neural organization manifests as something less (or more) than memory of actual fact.

  4. a friend of the law says:

    Don’t be so quick to discount Biden. After all, he did garner a grand total of 9,000 votes in the presidential primary race, before he pulled out. That is pretty stout.

  5. Mary says:

    It’ll be interesting to hear how Biden, who favored invasion of Iraq and now having a US sponsored division of the country along lines drawn by the US and without regard to the impact in Turkey and other nations (hey, maybe we should invade and redraw those borders too??) —

    be interesting to hear him explain why Russia shouldn’t be able to go and redraw Georgian lines (that they drew to start) to carve out South Ossetia.

    He’s been ok on some issues (education funding, some typical Democratic lobby special interest positions). He’s been deplorable on judgment calls; awful on the war. He’s definitely an improvement over Bayh and Kaine, the way dysentary is an improvement over colon cancer. The Senator from the “Deleware Corporation” state, though, is as far from “change” as they could have picked and, despite the corporatism of Deleware’s interests, he brings not one thing to the economic front.

    But between them, Biden and Obama (as was Clinton) are massively gung ho to increase the military out the wazoo, so they will have some agenda overlap.

    Not many who are caught in the grips of dysentery will be able to gratefully chant “at least it’s not colon cancer” but Democrats are made of much sterner stuff than Dysentarians. They’ll be able to chant, “at least it’s not Bayh” and actually be happy to have Biden.

    I’m not sure I understand pulling another warmongerer military expansionist, from the ranks of the “we can’t do anything unless we have at least 80 or so Democrats” Senate, but one additional silver lining is that it will be hard to mourn the loss of Biden, who, with his compatriots, have done so little for so many and so much for so few.

    Now that I’m thinking about it, is there any rule that says you can only have ONE vice president? How about a “Gang of 14?”

  6. Someone W/Cents says:

    It will also be interesting to see if anyone ties him to Scruggs, Patterson and Balducci

  7. lotus says:

    Tears of (ruing) laughter running down my cheeks, I rise in a standing O for Mary’s 5 [now linked at Pith & Vinegar]. Girl, you need your own show — I’d turn on the teevy for that!

  8. GlitterGirl says:

    That’s really saying ‘sumin Mary…lotus doesn’t even watch the teevee!

  9. lotus says:

    Email from im[n]b (love the subject line: “encore une fois une autre fois”):

    Get that java/cookie error message trying to post…..so here:

    As does Clinton, as does Obama, Biden has a lot of Elvis in him. That by itself should make it interesting and probably fun.

    More than most, Biden has the street cred to simply tear into McCain — as well as the talent for such. I think that played considerably in the choice. McCain’s people can play that fast-dog-earing POW card all they want. Biden will chew it up.

    Foreign policy experience. Sure. But I think Biden’s toughness and tongue are what Obama’s handlers realized what they needed now. Obama has for too long been turning over his lunch money to McCain each morning and asking him to just be fair. That’s over.

    Biden voted for the war. Yep. So did a lot of others who thought it was wrong.

    But I hope he’ll say now something they’ve all been afraid to say: Everyone was cowed and steamrolled by the "Why-Do-You-Hate-America" frenzy against anyone who spoke against going to war with Iraq, or maybe thought we were overly obsessed for the wrong reasons about the Twin Phalluses falling. ("Freedom Fries,” anyone?)

    Biden can tell the truth now: Cheney/Rumsfeld et al. were like the high school jocks who walked by some band nerds and someone in that crowd shouted an insult. Cheney/Rumsfeld picked the closest, smallest one in the crowd, not the one who called them out, and beat him to a pulp. That’s U.S. v. Iraq. I’d love to hear Biden say it.

    They’re all flawed. Pick the flaws that bother you most and oppose the pertinent candidate.

    Biden-Mississippi-Scruggs-Tobacco-$$$$$?
    Yep.

    Keating Five, anyone?
    Etc.

    Biden is going to be like a pitbull loose on the streets with blood on its lips.

    McCain’s opposition research folks are going to need nothing less than video of Obama engaged in sex with a non-mammal to overcome this.

  10. Rog says:

    B-i-d-e-n i-s b-o-r-i-n-g. :-(

  11. GlitterGirl says:

    Oh rog, I disagree. I think he’s very quick witted (remember “a noun, verb and 9/11″?) and smart ( I look forward seeing that mind at work). I think we can count on a little bit of entertainment from him as he goes after McCain and TBA. Besides, when that smile lights up his face, he ain’t bad to look at :>).

  12. GlitterGirl says:

    I tell ya, if I stick around here long enough I might get pretty good at conversational French…y’all keep sending me over to my online translator.

  13. somslawyer says:

    Here’s a good example of Biden being thoughtful. Shows the depth of his knowledge and experience. It was prophetic at the time and particularly relevant to events unfolding in Pakistan now.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ZyZCsRJyM&feature=user

  14. Confounded says:

    I’m listening to obama introduce obama. Major incongruencies talking about how out of touch washington is with America now joe biden I’d my running mat who’s been in Washington for 30 years. But he’s not out of touch. Yeah right.

  15. GlitterGirl says:

    If, and I am saying if, you are one of those who wants change, one who wants to see us go in a direction different from the past 8 years; then I would say to you, give Obama the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps he believes Biden is the best person to help him affect that change.