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	<title>Comments on: The Case Gets Nuttier (and nuttier still)</title>
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		<title>By: zen master</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/04/03/the-case-gets-nuttier/#comment-15606</link>
		<dc:creator>zen master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Brown&#039;s hostile workplace claim is pretty much up in smoke now.

She could still win on her state-law claims, like for breach of contract, but her credibility has taken a big hit in light of the e-mails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Brown&#8217;s hostile workplace claim is pretty much up in smoke now.</p>
<p>She could still win on her state-law claims, like for breach of contract, but her credibility has taken a big hit in light of the e-mails.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragoman</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/04/03/the-case-gets-nuttier/#comment-15551</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson @20: Brown states in her amended complaint that it was Mr. Coward who showed her a photograph of his - how can I put this - rampant member. And it was this same Mr. Coward who appears to have been the recipient of a number of e-mails from Brown that were of a penile nature, silly though they were. 

And I believe the complaint also alleges that it was Mr. Coward who requested, er - oral services from Miss Brown. So yes, she is asserting that she was propositioned. 

There was another fellow there who engaged in some bothersome hand tickling or rubbing - can&#039;t remember who he was.

With everyone all hot and bothered in there all the time, I wonder how much actual lawyerin&#039; ever got done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson @20: Brown states in her amended complaint that it was Mr. Coward who showed her a photograph of his &#8211; how can I put this &#8211; rampant member. And it was this same Mr. Coward who appears to have been the recipient of a number of e-mails from Brown that were of a penile nature, silly though they were. </p>
<p>And I believe the complaint also alleges that it was Mr. Coward who requested, er &#8211; oral services from Miss Brown. So yes, she is asserting that she was propositioned. </p>
<p>There was another fellow there who engaged in some bothersome hand tickling or rubbing &#8211; can&#8217;t remember who he was.</p>
<p>With everyone all hot and bothered in there all the time, I wonder how much actual lawyerin&#8217; ever got done.</p>
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		<title>By: jester</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/04/03/the-case-gets-nuttier/#comment-15549</link>
		<dc:creator>jester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>logus 18 - mag 21 is correct - you gotta get back to the hard drives.   Ideally, you would want not only the hard drives for the computers originating the email, but you would want the hard drive information (copies of the emails, etc.) that are stored on the sender&#039;s actual mail server and the associated log files. 

You can prove where it came from, the original content, who got it, etc.  The hardest thing to prove is was that person the actual person sitting at the computer when the email was written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>logus 18 &#8211; mag 21 is correct &#8211; you gotta get back to the hard drives.   Ideally, you would want not only the hard drives for the computers originating the email, but you would want the hard drive information (copies of the emails, etc.) that are stored on the sender&#8217;s actual mail server and the associated log files. </p>
<p>You can prove where it came from, the original content, who got it, etc.  The hardest thing to prove is was that person the actual person sitting at the computer when the email was written.</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/04/03/the-case-gets-nuttier/#comment-15546</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mag, thank you ver&#039; much, m&#039;dear, for reminding me to save this whole blog to my hard drive again. Wordy as we all are, you wouldn&#039;t believe how little time that takes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mag, thank you ver&#8217; much, m&#8217;dear, for reminding me to save this whole blog to my hard drive again. Wordy as we all are, you wouldn&#8217;t believe how little time that takes.</p>
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		<title>By: magnolia</title>
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		<dc:creator>magnolia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lotus// You retrieve off of the Hard Drive. My husband does this as a hobby, its very time consuming, and very expensive if one has to hire a professional. One I remember him doing was for a Lawyer friend who had started writing a book and lost it all to never be retrieved again. It took days, but everybody was so happy. You can&#039;t fool a hard drive, its like its written in stone and it doesn&#039;t like to give it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lotus// You retrieve off of the Hard Drive. My husband does this as a hobby, its very time consuming, and very expensive if one has to hire a professional. One I remember him doing was for a Lawyer friend who had started writing a book and lost it all to never be retrieved again. It took days, but everybody was so happy. You can&#8217;t fool a hard drive, its like its written in stone and it doesn&#8217;t like to give it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/04/03/the-case-gets-nuttier/#comment-15544</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue Jane raises about the e-mails is going to depend in large part on who got them and what their expectations were.

Was any of the allegedly unwelcome attention rec&#039;d by Ms. Brown, addressed to her by people she&#039;d sent (say) penis categories to?

Also, there is sex stuff (like silly e-mail forwards of penis types) and there is sex stuff (like stuff demeaning to women, specifically propositioning Ms. Brown, etc.).  I do not remember what kind of stuff she was complaining about earlier.

If her complaint was simply that s-e-x was mentioned in her ladylike presence, then yes, that won&#039;t wash now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue Jane raises about the e-mails is going to depend in large part on who got them and what their expectations were.</p>
<p>Was any of the allegedly unwelcome attention rec&#8217;d by Ms. Brown, addressed to her by people she&#8217;d sent (say) penis categories to?</p>
<p>Also, there is sex stuff (like silly e-mail forwards of penis types) and there is sex stuff (like stuff demeaning to women, specifically propositioning Ms. Brown, etc.).  I do not remember what kind of stuff she was complaining about earlier.</p>
<p>If her complaint was simply that s-e-x was mentioned in her ladylike presence, then yes, that won&#8217;t wash now.</p>
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		<title>By: Justsittinhere</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/04/03/the-case-gets-nuttier/#comment-15542</link>
		<dc:creator>Justsittinhere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>change the date settings on the computers and e mail from the account?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>change the date settings on the computers and e mail from the account?</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
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		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question for our IT-adepts: IF these were fraudulently-concocted emails (and I have no reason beyond a somewhat suspicious nature to suggest the possibility that they might be -- but IF they were), would that be provable? If so, how?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for our IT-adepts: IF these were fraudulently-concocted emails (and I have no reason beyond a somewhat suspicious nature to suggest the possibility that they might be &#8212; but IF they were), would that be provable? If so, how?</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/04/03/the-case-gets-nuttier/#comment-15527</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I say...BHH. Right sounds like she had some action going on for a while. Did she get divocred?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I say&#8230;BHH. Right sounds like she had some action going on for a while. Did she get divocred?</p>
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		<title>By: Sailor</title>
		<link>http://www.folo.us/2008/04/03/the-case-gets-nuttier/#comment-15525</link>
		<dc:creator>Sailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bless her heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bless her heart.</p>
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